It ain't about Trump, never was. It is about nationalism/populism vs globalism/elitism. This is global. You make like this is a uniquely American phenomenon. An absurd contention.
This battle is going on in Western nations all over the World, as this push to centralize power in a group of unelected Oligarchs. Who have shown remarkable incompetence when it comes to good management. I don't think they've gotten even one policy right. No wonder, they are Misanthropists and Malthusians. The pampered uber-wealthy parasites. Whose wealth is a giant gift and grift, from us foolishly giving them the right to create our money supply. And they don't even pay taxes on the money they create, why is that not taxable income? Instead we have to pay $trillions in taxes to them as interest payments on that money we have allowed them to create. When public banks or the US Treasury could do the same job better, at negligible cost to the taxpayer.
That is what the Trump election is about. The rejection of what ever the latest term they use to describe it: The New World Order, The Rules-based World Order, Stakeholder Capitalism, The Great Reset, Green New Deal, UN Agenda 2030, ...
And after the Trump term is over, if they even allow it, this battle will continue under a new leader, who could be JD Vance, Tulsi Gabbard, Vivek Ramaswamy, Tom Massie, ...
Allowing millions of illegal migrants into the country in the first place is an act of such unspeakable cruelty to all the migrants that followed the rules, to all the tax paying citizens, to the people who can’t possibly fully integrated into the fabric of society in a sustainable way but mostly to the tens of thousands of bonafide asylum seekers whose case files languish in foreign missions across the globe. Spare me the hair on fire rhetoric for Trump when measured against a system that was so corrupted by Democratic pundits and their non-profits that it amounts to a crime against humanity.
Very true. But note this same policy is happening all over the World, at least in Western nations, simultaneously. This can't be a coincidence. This is being centrally orchestrated. And like the Covid demented scamdemic, obviously has nefarious motives.
The Central Bank Cartel, based in Switzerland. They've been promoting their plan for World Government (Oligarchy) for a 100yrs or more. Now they are moving their plan ahead in high gear.
That’s a long conversation. The causes are multivariate but you are correct it is playing out across the West with disastrous results for everyone involved.
Do you think that the missing part of the conversation is also holding those governments to account? We never talk about that. It’s as if we all believe brown people can’t govern themselves. Save your comment because I know what you will say. Unless we break free from our ideological brain worms, we will not fix this problem.
This should have been obvious 8 years ago. The hysterical reaction of the Left to Trump has only discredited the Left and broadened the Trump coalition.
My suggestion to EcoModernists is to focus on your specific issue domain and try to convince both Democrats and Republicans that they should support those policies.
Do not take a stand on other issues, candidates and parties. It only undermines your credibility.
Above all, do not try to take a stand on the issue of the day.
Personally, I totally agree with this suggestion. That was my takeaway from reading this missive. I went through it trying to see what it had to do with Breakthrough's agenda. I didn't see anything.
Not that persecuting the opposition candidate isn't a threat to democracy. But threats to democracy only count when they're doing it to you, not when you're doing it to them, right?
Ted's thesis seems to be that discrediting Trump was a worthy goal from the get go (2016) and the only failure has been tactical. I wasn’t a Trump fan then, and am not now, but my observation, and that of many others, was that he governed better than Obama before him and Biden after. The things that stood out for me were tax cuts, climate, regulation, and immigration. We all know that Trump speaks in a manner that's not what most people expect of a president but what the Democrats are offering from a policy perspective is worse (climate, spending, regulations, speech restrictions, etc).
Well, I’m a “college educated, liberal minded” person, but my view of what that means is clearly quite different than yours. I won’t hold my breath waiting for thoughtful, constructive engagement, but I’m open to it.
Well said... "fear of normalizing Trump has very strongly discouraged mainstream civil society actors from engaging his agenda and coalition constructively" Lets put an end to that. Lets move beyond the fear, its so repitilian.
Trump's policy on Ukraine is in itself an overwhelming reason to be grateful for his election.
You are completely wrong on Ukraine, i.e. The US/NATO/Davos proxy War against Russia. That is putting us at serious risk of a Global World Nuclear War. Incredibly foolish and a complete waste of probably upwards of a $trillion in weapons and infrastructure destroyed. And a million lives lost. What a monstrous and evil policy, as stated by Neocon Chicken Hawk Lindsey Graham: " We will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian".
US Staged a Coup in Ukraine - Here's Why and How, Chris Kanthan:
A lot of this is just esoteric, psychobabble nonsense. A busy mind over thinking stuff nobody is thinking. I am reading a lot of progressive confessions, where they misread the past, but now have a bead on it. Enough already! Treating Trump as a normal politician would be a benefit to the country. Trump's agenda is growth and prosperity, the only thing he'll push back on is anything that gets in the way of this mission. I respect Ted Nordhaus and agree with him on many issues. It would be better if Nordhaus stepped up and showed the Trump Administration how to make the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) Great For The First Time. Or replace it somehow. That would go a lot further than splitting progressive hairs over why Trump is our 47 President.
I was already hoping that the NRC could be brought around with the incoming administration on the EPA aspect.
For better or worse, Trump will never be treated like a normal politician. Anyone can already see how the majority of journalistic organizations are aligning to put a negative spin on any news involving Trump (so obviously that it is, as always, insulting), as if it's their civic duty.
Save it for the op-eds. All that is required is to report what the man says and does, and let people decide for themselves. He is clearly not "normal," as a person or a politician.
great for everyone that breaks with the democrats recent paradigm/coalition. an abrupt shift of overall vision can be an inspiring alternative to nativism, a centrist split. a problem is that there are advocates for remedies for each major problem, but no one agrees with fixing them all. each view breaks the dominant taboo on 1 or 2 issues, but is fearfully enthralled on the others. Without combining the following at a minimum, an alternative pole will still be thrusting allies back to nativism:
-- empower culture (religious & non) and public school practice that encourages youth and families learning, accountability and performance
-- fix internal America first
-- build state institutions that commercialize and diffuse high productivity economy to the heartland and replace obsolete skills
-- intensify American hegemony to secure trade and communications infrastructure - lift instead of undermine mid level powers, right size spending on combat capacity
It ain't about Trump, never was. It is about nationalism/populism vs globalism/elitism. This is global. You make like this is a uniquely American phenomenon. An absurd contention.
This battle is going on in Western nations all over the World, as this push to centralize power in a group of unelected Oligarchs. Who have shown remarkable incompetence when it comes to good management. I don't think they've gotten even one policy right. No wonder, they are Misanthropists and Malthusians. The pampered uber-wealthy parasites. Whose wealth is a giant gift and grift, from us foolishly giving them the right to create our money supply. And they don't even pay taxes on the money they create, why is that not taxable income? Instead we have to pay $trillions in taxes to them as interest payments on that money we have allowed them to create. When public banks or the US Treasury could do the same job better, at negligible cost to the taxpayer.
That is what the Trump election is about. The rejection of what ever the latest term they use to describe it: The New World Order, The Rules-based World Order, Stakeholder Capitalism, The Great Reset, Green New Deal, UN Agenda 2030, ...
And after the Trump term is over, if they even allow it, this battle will continue under a new leader, who could be JD Vance, Tulsi Gabbard, Vivek Ramaswamy, Tom Massie, ...
Allowing millions of illegal migrants into the country in the first place is an act of such unspeakable cruelty to all the migrants that followed the rules, to all the tax paying citizens, to the people who can’t possibly fully integrated into the fabric of society in a sustainable way but mostly to the tens of thousands of bonafide asylum seekers whose case files languish in foreign missions across the globe. Spare me the hair on fire rhetoric for Trump when measured against a system that was so corrupted by Democratic pundits and their non-profits that it amounts to a crime against humanity.
Very true. But note this same policy is happening all over the World, at least in Western nations, simultaneously. This can't be a coincidence. This is being centrally orchestrated. And like the Covid demented scamdemic, obviously has nefarious motives.
Who do you think is “orchestrating” it?
The Central Bank Cartel, based in Switzerland. They've been promoting their plan for World Government (Oligarchy) for a 100yrs or more. Now they are moving their plan ahead in high gear.
That’s a long conversation. The causes are multivariate but you are correct it is playing out across the West with disastrous results for everyone involved.
Letting desperate people die in Guatemala or Honduras is cruel. The hypocrisy of so-called Christians is in the stratosphere.
Do you think that the missing part of the conversation is also holding those governments to account? We never talk about that. It’s as if we all believe brown people can’t govern themselves. Save your comment because I know what you will say. Unless we break free from our ideological brain worms, we will not fix this problem.
This should have been obvious 8 years ago. The hysterical reaction of the Left to Trump has only discredited the Left and broadened the Trump coalition.
My suggestion to EcoModernists is to focus on your specific issue domain and try to convince both Democrats and Republicans that they should support those policies.
Do not take a stand on other issues, candidates and parties. It only undermines your credibility.
Above all, do not try to take a stand on the issue of the day.
Personally, I totally agree with this suggestion. That was my takeaway from reading this missive. I went through it trying to see what it had to do with Breakthrough's agenda. I didn't see anything.
Ah, yes, the classic "threat to democracy."
Not that persecuting the opposition candidate isn't a threat to democracy. But threats to democracy only count when they're doing it to you, not when you're doing it to them, right?
Ted's thesis seems to be that discrediting Trump was a worthy goal from the get go (2016) and the only failure has been tactical. I wasn’t a Trump fan then, and am not now, but my observation, and that of many others, was that he governed better than Obama before him and Biden after. The things that stood out for me were tax cuts, climate, regulation, and immigration. We all know that Trump speaks in a manner that's not what most people expect of a president but what the Democrats are offering from a policy perspective is worse (climate, spending, regulations, speech restrictions, etc).
Well, I’m a “college educated, liberal minded” person, but my view of what that means is clearly quite different than yours. I won’t hold my breath waiting for thoughtful, constructive engagement, but I’m open to it.
Well said... "fear of normalizing Trump has very strongly discouraged mainstream civil society actors from engaging his agenda and coalition constructively" Lets put an end to that. Lets move beyond the fear, its so repitilian.
Trump's policy on Ukraine is in itself an overwhelming reason to be grateful for his election.
You are completely wrong on Ukraine, i.e. The US/NATO/Davos proxy War against Russia. That is putting us at serious risk of a Global World Nuclear War. Incredibly foolish and a complete waste of probably upwards of a $trillion in weapons and infrastructure destroyed. And a million lives lost. What a monstrous and evil policy, as stated by Neocon Chicken Hawk Lindsey Graham: " We will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian".
US Staged a Coup in Ukraine - Here's Why and How, Chris Kanthan:
https://www.sott.net/article/393740-US-Staged-a-Coup-in-Ukraine-Heres-Why-and-How
Jeffrey Sachs: The Untold History of the Cold War, CIA Coups Around the World, and COVID's Origin
Tucker Carlson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS-3QssVPeg
Jeffrey Sachs: NATO In 'Wartime Hallucination' Mode! The Most TERRIBLE Offensive Is About To Happen
youtube.com/watch?v=DuBVKT4a0H8
Aaron Maté: Who Sabotaged the Istanbul Deal?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owW3oUMEVok
“This Is Gonna Get Us ALL Blown Up!” Jeffrey Sachs On Russian Invasion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mULVrUGh6wo
A lot of this is just esoteric, psychobabble nonsense. A busy mind over thinking stuff nobody is thinking. I am reading a lot of progressive confessions, where they misread the past, but now have a bead on it. Enough already! Treating Trump as a normal politician would be a benefit to the country. Trump's agenda is growth and prosperity, the only thing he'll push back on is anything that gets in the way of this mission. I respect Ted Nordhaus and agree with him on many issues. It would be better if Nordhaus stepped up and showed the Trump Administration how to make the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) Great For The First Time. Or replace it somehow. That would go a lot further than splitting progressive hairs over why Trump is our 47 President.
I was already hoping that the NRC could be brought around with the incoming administration on the EPA aspect.
For better or worse, Trump will never be treated like a normal politician. Anyone can already see how the majority of journalistic organizations are aligning to put a negative spin on any news involving Trump (so obviously that it is, as always, insulting), as if it's their civic duty.
Save it for the op-eds. All that is required is to report what the man says and does, and let people decide for themselves. He is clearly not "normal," as a person or a politician.
great for everyone that breaks with the democrats recent paradigm/coalition. an abrupt shift of overall vision can be an inspiring alternative to nativism, a centrist split. a problem is that there are advocates for remedies for each major problem, but no one agrees with fixing them all. each view breaks the dominant taboo on 1 or 2 issues, but is fearfully enthralled on the others. Without combining the following at a minimum, an alternative pole will still be thrusting allies back to nativism:
-- empower culture (religious & non) and public school practice that encourages youth and families learning, accountability and performance
-- fix internal America first
-- build state institutions that commercialize and diffuse high productivity economy to the heartland and replace obsolete skills
-- intensify American hegemony to secure trade and communications infrastructure - lift instead of undermine mid level powers, right size spending on combat capacity
Ted, excellent insight- thanks!
You are in for a very long Trump term. Best wishes to you.
And Vance after that!
Oh, give it a rest. Spend your time studying the meaning of 'histrionics'.
I took that to be self depreciation on Ted's part, admitting that he too overreacted to Trump’s election.